Comments on: The comings and goings of the partner repo http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/22/the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo The Magic of Open Source Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:18:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: MarkC http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/22/the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo/comment-page-1/#comment-12741 MarkC Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:36:40 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2311#comment-12741 Dropping packages from the partner repo without any notification is the real problem which makes them next to useless. I'm sure VMWare Player (or perhaps it was Server) used to be in the partner repos too, which I found invaluable... for about four months before it disappeared and I was left having to grab it from VMWare's site. Ditto with Opera. If the partner repo is going to exist in any useful way, it needs a commitment from Canonical that any software which makes it in is going to continue to be available in future releases, and that they will give a reasonable notification period (at least 6 months, preferably more) before removing them. If the partners themselves can't commit to that, then they shouldn't go into the repository at all. Dropping packages from the partner repo without any notification is the real problem which makes them next to useless. I’m sure VMWare Player (or perhaps it was Server) used to be in the partner repos too, which I found invaluable… for about four months before it disappeared and I was left having to grab it from VMWare’s site. Ditto with Opera.

If the partner repo is going to exist in any useful way, it needs a commitment from Canonical that any software which makes it in is going to continue to be available in future releases, and that they will give a reasonable notification period (at least 6 months, preferably more) before removing them. If the partners themselves can’t commit to that, then they shouldn’t go into the repository at all.

]]> By: Alan Bell http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/22/the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo/comment-page-1/#comment-12736 Alan Bell Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:01:26 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2311#comment-12736 I have now rectified this critical flaw in the article. I have now rectified this critical flaw in the article.

]]> By: Alan Bell http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/22/the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo/comment-page-1/#comment-12735 Alan Bell Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:00:53 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2311#comment-12735 yes, just reading the packages file which, as we both point out, does not tell the whole story. yes, just reading the packages file which, as we both point out, does not tell the whole story.

]]> By: Alan Bell http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/22/the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo/comment-page-1/#comment-12734 Alan Bell Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:57:55 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2311#comment-12734 Yes it was. I am full of fail. I have fixed it and as soon as I find my cilice and whip I will repent for my transgression. Yes it was. I am full of fail. I have fixed it and as soon as I find my cilice and whip I will repent for my transgression.

]]> By: Mackenzie http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/22/the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo/comment-page-1/#comment-12732 Mackenzie Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:52:51 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2311#comment-12732 Dapper was 6.06 not 6.04. Dapper was 6.06 not 6.04.

]]> By: Jef Spaleta http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/22/the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo/comment-page-1/#comment-12731 Jef Spaleta Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:20:39 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2311#comment-12731 are you just reading the contents of the Packages files? That doesn't tell the whole story. For example opera was available for multiple releases up to and including hardy and then it was pulled..quietly. There are still dsc files in http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/o/opera/ that Canonical didn't wipe. Canonical doesn't make any effort to communicate to the Ubuntu community when software drops out of the partner repo even when it silently goes missing from still active LTS trees. They just update the repository information to no longer include the binaries. Here's a nice forum thread that adds some perspective about Opera and Zdesktop both just up and disappearing. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-980248.html You'll also note this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/153798 which lists opera as being published in the Gutsy partner repository. are you just reading the contents of the Packages files?

That doesn’t tell the whole story. For example opera was available for multiple releases up to and including hardy and then it was pulled..quietly. There are still dsc files in http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/o/opera/ that Canonical didn’t wipe.

Canonical doesn’t make any effort to communicate to the Ubuntu community when software drops out of the partner repo even when it silently goes missing from still active LTS trees. They just update the repository information to no longer include the binaries. Here’s a nice forum thread that adds some perspective about Opera and Zdesktop both just up and disappearing.

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-980248.html

You’ll also note this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/153798 which lists opera as being published in the Gutsy partner repository.

]]> By: Dom http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/22/the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo/comment-page-1/#comment-12730 Dom Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:46:21 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2311#comment-12730 It'd be interesting to also list which of these partner packages have the full source tarball uploaded (e.g., wasce-server) vs those that don't (e.g., skype / acroread). Full source upload could potentially be adopted and transitioned to multiverse? It’d be interesting to also list which of these partner packages have the full source tarball uploaded (e.g., wasce-server) vs those that don’t (e.g., skype / acroread).

Full source upload could potentially be adopted and transitioned to multiverse?

]]> By: meiko http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/22/the-comings-and-goings-of-the-partner-repo/comment-page-1/#comment-12727 meiko Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:24:32 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2311#comment-12727 dapper drake lts 6.06 !!! grrrr 6.04 xD dapper drake lts 6.06 !!! grrrr
6.04 xD

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