C# Is just “SO Last Year”
Most readers of this humble blog will be very aware of my personal opinion about Mono and specifically with regards to where it should belong in Ubuntu.
Free and Open Source Software projects are built using a wide variety of programming languages. Blackduck who study this kind of thing have released some interesting data regarding the use of various languages to develop FOSS applications.
C# (the language of choice for Mono advocates) is languishing in 10th place behind Perl, Python, PHP, Java and many not insignificant others.
FOSS Language use
And is doesn’t appear to be growing by anything other than what looks like a statistical anomaly.
Mono Growth
If one were to listen to some proponents of Mono/C# you might have been led to think that (to be read in a really deep voice like the old Carlsberg ads):
Yeah right.
My other foot has bells on it…
You forgot to note that the about totality of open source c# applications is written for Windows on .net and not for Mono/linux.
Also let’s forget for a moment the cross-platform rap. How many .net apps did you see ported from windows ? (apart paint.net that doesn’t seem that good)
Here we go again, illustrious mono advocates explaining why mono is so much loved by developers. And here we go again, here’s the list of Mono apps in the ubuntu repositories:
$ apt-cache rdepends mono-runtime | grep -v mono
Take the list and strip examples and libraries. Then strip worthless apps. Then count. That’s the result of 8 years of Mono.
Alan, what are your thoughts on the Chicken Little Remix, put out by Mono developer Jo Shields, which is Ubuntu 9.04 with mono removed.
http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/rants/163/
Surely you are aware of it.
@stlouisubntu
Yes, I had seen Jo’s remix already. It’s a good start and I hope that someone will pick it up and run with it. It is however (IMHO) easier to remove Mono from a default Ubuntu desktop install and it certainly requires infrastructure/maintenance/support etc than maintaining an entire a distro:
sudo apt-get purge libmono0 mono-common libgdiplusThat’s it.
Oh yeah, you can also remove some files which are mistakenly left over in
/usr/lib/monoif you feel the need.A respin is fine to not get mono out of the box, but no thanks I”d rather Ubuntu themselves comply because they are the ones causing the problems, and they should fix it and be responsible for their actions like the rest of us are. But since they default to gnome, and we know gnome is in bed with mono with tomboy and who knows what is coming next, then I see little reason to trust them going forward.
I want to see them own up to this and fix it, simple as that.
Which is why Ill not use Ubuntu , until they do.
I find fedora much more agreeable anyway , as at least their forums are legitimate and dont try
to squelch debate.
Given the patent “Agreement’ novel made with MIcrosoft , and MIcrosoft’s current and past ‘history’ with ooXML, tomtom and other scandalous issues with other organizations and buyouts, why on earth are we even talking about this I’d like to know..oh wait I know I know…MONEY talks BS walks ?
If you are that in love with MIcrosoft and its products that you would use their products knowing they are using patent violations from a company that hates us ,and what we do as they ’see’ us atm as direct competition to their ( and their employees/users) bottom line, then you either flat are simply unaware and should educate yourself on these matters very soon, or your reasoning is far more agregious and linked to MIcrosoft themselves. If so thats fine, but dont expect the rest of us to sit idly by while you try to bring linux down, it wont happen.
For you who dont seem to care about linux there is ubuntu, gnome and tomboy etal, and for the rest of us who truly care about linux’s future we’ll use something else; thanks just the same but no thanks ubuntu/gnome.
oh btw..does stargate universe really work in moonlight, I hear it doesn’t from a few friends but I can’t verify as I dont have linux installed currently. If not I think thats outrageous, than fans that simply choose the open and free linux OS, are left out in the cold.
peace out.
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