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	<title>Comments on: OOXML is REALLY BAD (But then we already knew that didn&#8217;t we?)</title>
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	<description>The Magic of Open Source</description>
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		<title>By: Helge W. Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helge W. Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not? It&#039;s ugly anyway :P
Anyway, when I said &quot;typo&quot; I meant the blogger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not? It&#8217;s ugly anyway <img src='http://www.theopensourcerer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Anyway, when I said &#8220;typo&#8221; I meant the blogger.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohde Fischer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohde Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I don&#039;t think a typo is likely (though it is Microsoft). But well opacity is a possibility, but then I have to ask: what does an opacity value do in an rgb-value?

Ps. Jamen hej Helge :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I don&#8217;t think a typo is likely (though it is Microsoft). But well opacity is a possibility, but then I have to ask: what does an opacity value do in an rgb-value?</p>
<p>Ps. Jamen hej Helge <img src='http://www.theopensourcerer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Helge W. Larsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helge W. Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d guess that the first two digits are for opacity, or it&#039;s just a typo.

PS: Hej Rohde! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d guess that the first two digits are for opacity, or it&#8217;s just a typo.</p>
<p>PS: Hej Rohde! <img src='http://www.theopensourcerer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ISO people are probably just dyslexic..... they didn&#039;t notice that they were approving &quot;Office Open XML&quot;.... they thought that they were approving &quot;OpenOffice XML&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ISO people are probably just dyslexic&#8230;.. they didn&#8217;t notice that they were approving &#8220;Office Open XML&#8221;&#8230;. they thought that they were approving &#8220;OpenOffice XML&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rohde Fischer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohde Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, can somebody please explain me the color-code for OOXML-sheet? That one is really f*cked. Usually you would just use the color style rrggbb (replace with hexadecimal values), but why the extra two? What do they do? And how could they possibly be part of a rgb value?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, can somebody please explain me the color-code for OOXML-sheet? That one is really f*cked. Usually you would just use the color style rrggbb (replace with hexadecimal values), but why the extra two? What do they do? And how could they possibly be part of a rgb value?</p>
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		<title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; ISO Totally Loses Its Credibility, Microsoft Partly Blamed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; ISO Totally Loses Its Credibility, Microsoft Partly Blamed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first one speaks about the degree of manipulation.  Honestly, how on earth can the US NB, for example, have just announced their decision to vote yes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first one speaks about the degree of manipulation.  Honestly, how on earth can the US NB, for example, have just announced their decision to vote yes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOXML is a document schema specification.

Have you considered how long the concept of the document has been with us and how much many of the facilities of WEB 2.0 are erroding the value of a single document?

Consider the rise of content management systems and wikis.  Instead of an individual authour making a mammoth effort to create a monolithic voloume, we are moving to a world where disperate individuals make a small contribution of specific expertise in bite size chunks presented through in a content management system.  Be this a Wiki or any other technology.

Pragmatically, Microsofts OOXML has to be as it is to preserve historical bagage.  It will become increasinly irrelvant as people discard document creation for content creation.  This is why microsoft fears google apps.

Don&#039;t get steamed up about it OOXML.  Simply make sure that standards for CMS don&#039;t enforce vendor lock in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOXML is a document schema specification.</p>
<p>Have you considered how long the concept of the document has been with us and how much many of the facilities of WEB 2.0 are erroding the value of a single document?</p>
<p>Consider the rise of content management systems and wikis.  Instead of an individual authour making a mammoth effort to create a monolithic voloume, we are moving to a world where disperate individuals make a small contribution of specific expertise in bite size chunks presented through in a content management system.  Be this a Wiki or any other technology.</p>
<p>Pragmatically, Microsofts OOXML has to be as it is to preserve historical bagage.  It will become increasinly irrelvant as people discard document creation for content creation.  This is why microsoft fears google apps.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get steamed up about it OOXML.  Simply make sure that standards for CMS don&#8217;t enforce vendor lock in.</p>
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		<title>By: tz</title>
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		<dc:creator>tz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only engineering.  And I have a bridge over I-35W in Minneapolis which is going cheap.

Nero forced the senate to vote honors on his horse.  The horse was more honorable than the senate.

Apparently ISO wants to become equally respected.  The US NB seems to be in that condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only engineering.  And I have a bridge over I-35W in Minneapolis which is going cheap.</p>
<p>Nero forced the senate to vote honors on his horse.  The horse was more honorable than the senate.</p>
<p>Apparently ISO wants to become equally respected.  The US NB seems to be in that condition.</p>
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		<title>By: Juergen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juergen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ISO worked well for a long time and didn&#039;t need any structure to prevent fraud as companies participating had a common goal to generate a standard useful for everybody. Sure, they made some mistakes but they were able to correct them.
With a convicted criminal company trying to hijack it they had no tools in place to prevent it from happening.
The best would be to shut down ISO and start a new group which has provisions in place to prevent such things.

What I don&#039;t understand is why people get so excited by all the flaws in MSOOXML. Isn&#039;t that just their normal programming style just in published form and not hidden behind an EULA? (specifications? what are specifications?)

&gt;kjs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISO worked well for a long time and didn&#8217;t need any structure to prevent fraud as companies participating had a common goal to generate a standard useful for everybody. Sure, they made some mistakes but they were able to correct them.<br />
With a convicted criminal company trying to hijack it they had no tools in place to prevent it from happening.<br />
The best would be to shut down ISO and start a new group which has provisions in place to prevent such things.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t understand is why people get so excited by all the flaws in MSOOXML. Isn&#8217;t that just their normal programming style just in published form and not hidden behind an EULA? (specifications? what are specifications?)</p>
<p>&gt;kjs</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If OOXML doesn&#039;t pass, Microsoft will bad mouth ISO so badly that they will lose all credibility anyway.  Like they did to some of the people in the Massachusetts government. 

It&#039;s a case of frying pan and fire already.  I don&#039;t think there&#039;s much hope left for ISO credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If OOXML doesn&#8217;t pass, Microsoft will bad mouth ISO so badly that they will lose all credibility anyway.  Like they did to some of the people in the Massachusetts government. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a case of frying pan and fire already.  I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s much hope left for ISO credibility.</p>
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