Comments on: Drowning in their own FUD? http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2007/05/16/drowning-in-their-own-fud/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=drowning-in-their-own-fud The Magic of Open Source Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:02:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: govokinolij http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2007/05/16/drowning-in-their-own-fud/comment-page-1/#comment-12 govokinolij Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:13:20 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=7#comment-12 Hi Looks good! Very useful, good stuff. Good resources here. Thanks much! Bye Hi

Looks good! Very useful, good stuff. Good resources here. Thanks much!

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]]> By: Alan Lord http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2007/05/16/drowning-in-their-own-fud/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Alan Lord Sat, 19 May 2007 12:56:33 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=7#comment-6 Hi Damien, thanks very much for commenting. I'm not sure quite what your comments have to do with this particular article but they are most welcome nevertheless. Could you possibly provide some evidence (links to analyst reports and so forth) to substantiate your data? "Outshipping" is an interesting term... The fact Windows XP has been shipping (and still is BTW) since Oct 2001 makes me question how/what Vista is outshipping? On a units per day basis perhaps? And which shipping periods are being compared? First quarter shipments of both releases I would hope. And let's not forget that there a LOT more PCs in the world now than in 2001... (Although most of them probably won't run Vista happily) I agree that Linux is not yet a force on the Desktop, but it is being deployed quite widely and downloads of distributions such as Ubuntu Desktop are measured in the millions... Dell were recently quoted as saying that 3.5% of their customers use GNU/Linux when they announced they would start shipping Ubuntu pre-installed. This was after over 130,000 people asked them to do it. Could you clarify how you know Linux is taking share just from other Unix platforms? As far as I am aware, Solaris has not yet been Open Sourced. Although from the noises from Sun it probably will. Anyway - thanks again and don't take this the wrong way. I'm just curious and would like to get as many facts as possible about market change etc. The FLOSS report by the EU was a great example of an independent report. It shows some surprising statistics for the scale of use of FLOSS. Alan Hi Damien,

thanks very much for commenting.

I’m not sure quite what your comments have to do with this particular article but they are most welcome nevertheless. Could you possibly provide some evidence (links to analyst reports and so forth) to substantiate your data?

“Outshipping” is an interesting term… The fact Windows XP has been shipping (and still is BTW) since Oct 2001 makes me question how/what Vista is outshipping? On a units per day basis perhaps? And which shipping periods are being compared? First quarter shipments of both releases I would hope. And let’s not forget that there a LOT more PCs in the world now than in 2001… (Although most of them probably won’t run Vista happily)

I agree that Linux is not yet a force on the Desktop, but it is being deployed quite widely and downloads of distributions such as Ubuntu Desktop are measured in the millions… Dell were recently quoted as saying that 3.5% of their customers use GNU/Linux when they announced they would start shipping Ubuntu pre-installed. This was after over 130,000 people asked them to do it.

Could you clarify how you know Linux is taking share just from other Unix platforms?

As far as I am aware, Solaris has not yet been Open Sourced. Although from the noises from Sun it probably will.

Anyway – thanks again and don’t take this the wrong way. I’m just curious and would like to get as many facts as possible about market change etc. The FLOSS report by the EU was a great example of an independent report. It shows some surprising statistics for the scale of use of FLOSS.

Alan

]]> By: Damien Jorgensen - Cardiff http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2007/05/16/drowning-in-their-own-fud/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Damien Jorgensen - Cardiff Sat, 19 May 2007 09:16:03 +0000 http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=7#comment-5 Open Source gaining ground? Yes of course Open Source gaining ground on Windows? hmm I'd like to see the evidence. Vista Ultimate is apparntly outshipping XP, Windows 2003 has a larger install base than Windows 2000 and no doubt Windows Longhorn will have a larger install base than 2003. Linux is gaining ground, but its not on the desktop and when its on a server its gaining it from the like of HPUX, AIX etc. And with Sun Solaris "open source" (lol) and the development features its got, I dont see "linux" as anything very unique or anything with a real direction. Open Source gaining ground? Yes of course

Open Source gaining ground on Windows? hmm I’d like to see the evidence.

Vista Ultimate is apparntly outshipping XP, Windows 2003 has a larger install base than Windows 2000 and no doubt Windows Longhorn will have a larger install base than 2003.

Linux is gaining ground, but its not on the desktop and when its on a server its gaining it from the like of HPUX, AIX etc.

And with Sun Solaris “open source” (lol) and the development features its got, I dont see “linux” as anything very unique or anything with a real direction.

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